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- Irini
- Jedi Knight
- From: Cyprus
- Registered: 2006-03-16
- Posts: 253
Re: Leif Erlingsson's Post Mormon Cult
Reading this today on sott, just reminded me of this thread.
Michael Prescott, writer of above, ends his article thus:
All that interests me, in citing these instances (and there are many others that could be added to the list), is this question: What are the powers establishment science [add: establishment anything] is so afraid of? Why would people who
are genuinely confident that they have reason on their side resort to
character assassination, ostracism, threats, and even police action to
enforce their opinions?
The point is,
Michael will never get his answer from these people. If asked or
confronted, or if they get exposed finally, like Lief here was, they'll
turn it into a "you are rejecting me, poor me, and misunderstanding me,
and YOU are the one who is harming me and my reputation . Here the
crocodile tears stop flowing and "pity me" mask gets discarded - can't
wear it too long, it hurts inflated self-importance. And here enters
the good man, "i'll rise above your low level" trick, "there is a
way for you to make up! There's hope for you still, i'll forgive you.
Here's what You Do to clean this mess YOU created!" And the mind of the
person is not even fast enough to comprehend, how did that face, which
almost invoked pity in him/her at first, now looks like that of a
hyenas following a lion.
Seen one, seen them all. Only
advice: don't feed the hyena. And warn the rest of the group, if you
see one coming, or if you see that the lion skin is put clumsily over
the hyena fur, warn the others and pull the lion skin off. It is a
jungle here folks!
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. . But the great thing is to keep on a straight course and then one
may be sure that good will eventually come of what may now seem to be
evil~Sir William Robertson
- Cyre2067
- Jedi Council Member
- From: Philadelphia, USA
- Registered: 2006-02-01
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Re: Leif Erlingsson's Post Mormon Cult
It
amazes me how everytime one of these deviants comes out of the blue,
runs their intrinsic manipulation program, and has it fall flat on its
face... how often they run this "poor me" bit to follow it up. It's as
if their instrinsically sadistic desires for emotionally energy have
failed, they make no converts, and no one rushes to their defense or
engages them, and as such they have nothing left but name calling and
cheap ploys for sympathy.
Its sad that so many can fall prey
to these psychological manipulations simply because they do not have
the appropriate information about them. It's also amazing how simply
knowing about them in a general, that they exist, innoculates you
against them. Knowledge Protects.
Truth is hidden
- mudrabbit
- The Force is strong with this one
- Registered: 2006-08-12
- Posts: 9
Re: Leif Erlingsson's Post Mormon Cult
Lynne wrote: I
think that during his 'deprogramming' from Mormannism, he took notes on
how to program others to follow him. He seems to be craving
followers of his own.
Sick!
*****
Apparently the
psycho they tried to brainwash just picked up the information.
Much like they do with psychologists. They don't really bend to
the coercion, they adapt while they learn it.
I don't think he was "deprogrammed" at all. I don't think he was programmed that way in the first place.
Peg
- Laura
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Re: Leif Erlingsson's Post Mormon Cult
Richard wrote:...as
soon as we discover we are dealing with someone who does not value
Truth at all, every bet is off and we are not only 'free' to disregard
those things considered 'polite' in societies, but duty bound to expose
these predators for what they really are.
As Clarissa Pinkola Estes writes in Women Who Run With the Wolves:
"In the Bluebeard story we see how a woman who falls under the spell of the predator rouses herself and escapes him, wiser for the experience. The story is about transformation through knowledge, insight, voice, decisive action. We must unlock the secrets and use our abilities to be able to stand what we see. And then, we must use our voice and our wits to do what needs to be done about what we see.
When instincts are strong, we intuitively recognize the innate predator by scent, sight, and hearing... we anticipate its presence, hear it approaching, and take steps to turn it away. In the instinct-injured the predator is upon them before they register its presence.
We have been taught to be nice, to behave, to be blind, and to be misused. "The young and the injured are uninitiated. Neither knows much about the dark predator and are, therefore, credulous. ...
Wild Ways teaches people when not to act 'nice' about protecting their souls. The instinctive nature knows that being 'sweet' in these instances only makes the predator smile. When the soul is being threatened, it is not only acceptable to draw the line and mean it, it is required.
And that's what we are all about learning here.
When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight it concentrates his mind wonderfully. Samuel Johnson
He who learns must suffer And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget Falls drop by drop upon the heart, And in our own despair, against our will, Comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. -- Agamemnon; Aeschylus
- GRiM
- Padawan Learner
- From: Sweden
- Registered: 2006-04-23
- Posts: 87
Re: Leif Erlingsson's Post Mormon Cult
This might be a longshot but I thought i´ll write it anyway. Its about his (Leif Erlingsson) avatar, almost everyone here have a icon or anonymous avatar which implies that the idea is the important thing and not the person. A kind of look-at-me, materialistic view of self. Well it just might be dumb, but now its written
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"I don't have a good quote to put here" -GRiM
- Axel_Dunor
- Jedi Master
- From: Marseille, France
- Registered: 2006-03-21
- Posts: 311
Re: Leif Erlingsson's Post Mormon Cult
GRiM wrote:This might be a longshot but I thought i´ll write it anyway. Its about his (Leif Erlingsson) avatar, almost everyone here have a icon or anonymous avatar which implies that the idea is the important thing and not the person. A kind of look-at-me, materialistic view of self. Well it just might be dumb, but now its written
I
had a similar idea. Leif avatar reminded me of the unforgettable Karam8
and his avatar. If you want to read again Karam8 contributions and/or
have a look at his avatar, you can follow this link : http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/signs … 79&p=7
Using
a human face as an avatar might also be a way of triggering some
feelings like respect, humanity, confidence or sympathy. All the
emotional traps we usually fall in when interacting with individual
displaying strong psychopathological traits.
Naturally, it
doesn't mean that all members using this kind of avatar go for this
kind of manipulations. I guess most members do it in a genuine way.
"Al cap del set cent ans, verdejara lo laurel"
- DonaldJHunt
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- Registered: 2006-02-02
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Re: Leif Erlingsson's Post Mormon Cult
I thought Karam8's avatar was actually a picture of the late Prime Minister of Canada, Pierre Trudeau!
Axel_Dunor wrote:I
had a similar idea. Leif avatar reminded me of the unforgettable Karam8
and his avatar. If you want to read again Karam8 contributions and/or
have a look at his avatar, you can follow this link : http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/signs … 79&p=7
Using
a human face as an avatar might also be a way of triggering some
feelings like respect, humanity, confidence or sympathy. All the
emotional traps we usually fall in when interacting with individual
displaying strong psychopathological traits.
Naturally, it
doesn't mean that all members using this kind of avatar go for this
kind of manipulations. I guess most members do it in a genuine way.
Griffy: How did things GET this way, Zippy?
Zippy: Things are more like they are NOW than they EVER were before!
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